GvG cancelling timer - Guild Wars Forums

Sankt Hallvard · Nov 22, 2011, 06:20 PM // 18:20

When you gvg sometimes the leader cancels the timer and restarts. So my question to you guys is:

What does it do?
Do you do it?
And if you do it,
how often do you do it?

*lemming* · Nov 22, 2011, 06:54 PM // 18:54

When you first enter the queue, matchmaking attempts to pair you with another guild in the queue within a fixed amount of rating either way (I believe it's 100). This value increases (not sure if it's in discrete intervals or gradually) until the sixth minute of waiting, when you're eligible to be paired against guilds of any rating.

So basically, you cancel the timer when you don't want to play against guilds that are too much rating from you, be it trying to get a specific opponent that you know is playing, or avoiding playing sub-1200 guilds during double champ weekend, or dodging matches against the really low rating guilds being synced.

Rob Roy The Divine · Nov 23, 2011, 03:19 AM // 03:19

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Originally Posted by lemming

When you first enter the queue, matchmaking attempts to pair you with another guild in the queue within a fixed amount of rating either way (I believe it's 100). This value increases (not sure if it's in discrete intervals or gradually) until the sixth minute of waiting, when you're eligible to be paired against guilds of any rating.

So basically, you cancel the timer when you don't want to play against guilds that are too much rating from you, be it trying to get a specific opponent that you know is playing, or avoiding playing sub-1200 guilds during double champ weekend, or dodging matches against the really low rating guilds being synced.

in this case, say I was in a top 200 guild, and we've been in the queue for 6 minutes. would a rank 1000 guild need to wait till 6 minutes to face us or would it be instantaneous? as we're already able to match up with guilds at that rank

floor · Nov 30, 2011, 05:31 PM // 17:31

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Originally Posted by Rob Roy The Divine

in this case, say I was in a top 200 guild, and we've been in the queue for 6 minutes. would a rank 1000 guild need to wait till 6 minutes to face us or would it be instantaneous? as we're already able to match up with guilds at that rank

This is where you move into something of a grey area. I believe that once ONE team has waited the 6 minutes (or less if it means you come into their rating range), they can be paired with you instantly. I think we've all had it where you hit enter battle, and get paired instantly with a guild, you think oh cool, the game loads up and ur vs a rank 10k or rank 1 guild and u just sigh, thinking wtf?

Fairly sure it only needs 1 of the 2 teams to have waited, which is why the system potentially fails now that there are considerably less teams playing overall, so new teams entering the queue regularly get paired with guilds with a large rating difference who have been waiting a while.

Although this is beside the point, as why would you bother restarting the timer lol? Facing teams way lower than you is kinda fun to just stomp some ppl, and much better guilds are good practise. All match ups have their merits.

Essence Snow · Nov 30, 2011, 06:44 PM // 18:44

So exactly how is this not against the EULA?

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Engaging in PvP match manipulation, disrupting a PvP match by not actively playing in good faith, or any other form of PvP griefing, exploitation, or abuse.

fowlero · Nov 30, 2011, 07:44 PM // 19:44

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Originally Posted by Rob Roy The Divine

in this case, say I was in a top 200 guild, and we've been in the queue for 6 minutes. would a rank 1000 guild need to wait till 6 minutes to face us or would it be instantaneous? as we're already able to match up with guilds at that rank

It comes round every 2 minutes (i believe), so you know when you're next gonna get a game or not.

Never bother cancelling since don't care what rating just wanna play.

tealspikes · Nov 30, 2011, 07:50 PM // 19:50

There have also been many times where a friend's guild of similar rating decides to enter, but neither team gets a match for 20-30 minutes. 6 minutes of waiting opening up the entire ladder might be a simplified way of looking at it, but there is definitely more going on that is restricting certain match-ups.

*lemming* · Nov 30, 2011, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Two guilds can't play each other again within 24 hours if they haven't both played at least five ladder matches in between.

Still Number One · Dec 01, 2011, 01:10 AM // 01:10

When I played I would do it pretty much every time I felt we waited too long. For one, my guild mates hated playing games they were outmatched in, so I had to avoid those games to keep morale up so no one would quit early on me. Secondly, it just always felt like I'd get a match right after canceling and restarting. If I look back on it, that probably wasn't the case, but for whatever reason I felt like it got us matches quicker so I would do it.

I haven't led a guild in over 3 years though, and haven't played at all in at least 2, so I have no clue if it would be the same now though.

Nov 22, 2011, 06:20 PM // 18:20	#1
Sankt Hallvard Guest Join Date: Dec 2006	GvG cancelling timer When you gvg sometimes the leader cancels the timer and restarts. So my question to you guys is: What does it do? Do you do it? And if you do it, how often do you do it?

Nov 22, 2011, 06:54 PM // 18:54	#2
lemming The Hotshot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Honolulu Guild: International District [id???]	When you first enter the queue, matchmaking attempts to pair you with another guild in the queue within a fixed amount of rating either way (I believe it's 100). This value increases (not sure if it's in discrete intervals or gradually) until the sixth minute of waiting, when you're eligible to be paired against guilds of any rating. So basically, you cancel the timer when you don't want to play against guilds that are too much rating from you, be it trying to get a specific opponent that you know is playing, or avoiding playing sub-1200 guilds during double champ weekend, or dodging matches against the really low rating guilds being synced. __________________ Interested in GvG? Want to watch some high-level PvP? Check out some streams and recordings!

Nov 30, 2011, 09:27 PM // 21:27	#8
lemming The Hotshot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Honolulu Guild: International District [id???]	Two guilds can't play each other again within 24 hours if they haven't both played at least five ladder matches in between. __________________ Interested in GvG? Want to watch some high-level PvP? Check out some streams and recordings!

Nov 30, 2011, 07:50 PM // 19:50	#7
tealspikes Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2009	There have also been many times where a friend's guild of similar rating decides to enter, but neither team gets a match for 20-30 minutes. 6 minutes of waiting opening up the entire ladder might be a simplified way of looking at it, but there is definitely more going on that is restricting certain match-ups.

Dec 01, 2011, 01:10 AM // 01:10	#9
Still Number One Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2008 Profession: W/	When I played I would do it pretty much every time I felt we waited too long. For one, my guild mates hated playing games they were outmatched in, so I had to avoid those games to keep morale up so no one would quit early on me. Secondly, it just always felt like I'd get a match right after canceling and restarting. If I look back on it, that probably wasn't the case, but for whatever reason I felt like it got us matches quicker so I would do it. I haven't led a guild in over 3 years though, and haven't played at all in at least 2, so I have no clue if it would be the same now though.